Norwegian CPS Continues to Destroy Families, Takes Indian Child

A prayer for the New Year, that Baby Aryan and others like him are returned to their loving families in 2017.

Before the reblog of the Headlined story above, I would like to publish an email that I recently received. My name and the name of this blog has been added to the signed letter below. If you would like your name included in this appeal to the External Affairs Minister of India, just let me know in the comment section and I will forward your name to Suranya Aiyar who is very active in trying to help this family.

23 December 2016

To:

Her Excellency, Mrs Sushma Swaraj
External Affairs Minister of India

Subject: Norwegians and International Activists join Indians in urging Indian
Government to save Indian child in Norway

Dear Madam,

We, the undersigned citizens and residents of Norway, relatives of victims in Norway and activists from around the world, are writing to express our support for your intervention in the matter of the 5-year-old only child of Anil Kumar and Gurvinderjit Kaur who has been snatched by Barnevernet in Oslo, Norway last week.

Barnevernet, the Norwegian child protection authority has for many years been wrongly taking children from loving parents in Norway. The reasons are incompetence, overbearing officials, lack of transparency, inadequate
judicial oversight,and, in cases involving cultural and religious minorities, prejudice andracism.

Some of us have ourselves been victims of Barnevernet. We have been campaigning against Norway’s cruel child protection regime for years and this year alone there have been protests every month against Barnevernet attended by hundreds in cities around Norway. Supporting protests have been held in many countries around the world, including the United States of America, Russia, Australia, Brazil, Romania, Czechia,Lithuania and India.
We appreciate India’s earlier efforts in saving Indian children from Barnevernet and highlighting the human rights abuses of Barnevernet in Norway. We urge you to spare no effort in enabling the child of Anil Kumar and Gurvinderjit Kaur to be reunited with his family in Norway or repatriated to India where he can be brought up by his extended family in the country and culture of his origin, and to which he has been used since birth. This is his right under both Norwegian law and international law.

Signed…

(CR)

Delight in Truth

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The Norwegian government and their CPS (Barnevernet) have not reformed their ways as was hoped after the international embarrassment they suffered in the wake of snatching the five Bodnariu children.

Barnevernet is back on the international scene because they secretly removed Aryan, an Indian boy (mother Indian citizen) while he was in school for alledged slapping by the parents. Same tactic was used in the Bodnariu case. No warning, no court order, no social intervention or “help,” only the nuclear option. This is how Barnevernet operates.

Well, the parents are now crying out for international support and they have been featured on English-language CNN in India. Delight in Truth friend, attorney Suranya Aiyar was featured on the program with strong and passionate arguments against Barnevernet.

Looks like we are on the verge of another international scandal, and Norway and Barnevernet victims need it!  Maybe the shame will reach an unbearable…

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12 Responses to Norwegian CPS Continues to Destroy Families, Takes Indian Child

  1. SLIMJIM says:

    Thanks for keeping on top of them

  2. Barbara says:

    May I ask you to change this address to airgoddess@att.net Happy New Year to you and yours!

    • Chris says:

      Hi Barbara. Thank you for your kind wishes. May God bless you and yours in the New Year as well.

      I am able to delete your old address in my administration page but I am not able to add the new address. All you have to do is to resubscribe using your new email address.

      As you are my first email subscriber (back in 2012), I left the old one on the list. I am always able to remove it.

      God’s blessings…

  3. 3 January, 2017

    A ray of light:
    Jan Simonsen:
    “Poland with new legislation to protect Polish children
    against Norwegian Barnevern”
    http://www.mhskanland.net/page45/page394/page394.html

    In the nick of time! It sounds almost too good to be true. Poland actually seems well on their way to doing something very similar to what Suranya Aiyar suggested a few years ago (cf especially p 7 here):
    “Humanitarian Crisis for Indian children and their families in confiscatory child care proceedings abroad”
    http://dokument.r-b-v.net/india/nhrc-petition-121012.pdf

    Congratulations to Poland. What we must hope and pray for now, is that the light spreads to other countries. There should be a good chance of it: Norway has been strongly criticised by several countries in The Council of Europe, in the EU Parliament, and 7 (or 9) Barnevern cases against Norway are going up before the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg before long.

    • Chris says:

      Thank you for sharing this information with us, Marianne. This is, indeed, a ray of light. I join you in congratulating Poland for having the wisdom to discern the situation. I also hope and pray that other countries will follow Poland’s lead!

  4. Maybe this is of some interest, Chris? I am sure it sounds harsh, because it really criticises CPS victims and their sympathisers for being unrealistic. I certainly understand their feelings and thoughts, I have been in touch with victims of the CPS for years now. But my understanding them and sympathising lead nowhere, they have to use not only their hearts but their minds, and acquire real knowledge and information.
       It is perfectly understandable that when people hear about such CPS cases for the first time, they want to discuss how child protection should be and how the laws regulating it should function, in Norway and in other countries.
       Still, a lot of wasted time and confusion comes of concentrating just on these fundamental issues and refusing to take in what is likely to happen to a family in a particular case.

    Here is something I wrote about the advisability of facing the existing system realistically as regards physical punishment of children. That is the only way to understand what happens in individual cases and what the authorities’ next moves are likely to be.

    “Prison and foster home – this is what the system is like”
    http://www.mhskanland.net/page45/page399/page399.html

    • Chris says:

      Thank you for sharing your recent article, Marianne. It is very instructive.

      It appears that anyone who plans on raising a child in Norway need accept the likely possibility that their child(ren) will be taken away from them forever if they are guilty of corporal punishment. Anyone who is not happy with Norwegian laws in this regard need move out of the country to raise their children. For those who cannot afford to make such a drastic move, it seems to me that most Norwegians should be aware of the strict laws by now.

      I’m curious, Marianne. Would you have any educated estimate on the population of Norway that realizes the possible results of light physical punishment? I know there have been cases where children have been taken from their parents for crazy reasons. You have listed quite a few on your website.

      You have made a very interesting and worthwhile point here. I live across an ocean and from what I have seen of your Barnevernet I would be cautious and probably afraid to raise any children in your country. I don’t think I would be unrealistic to have this fear.

      • No, I do not have or know of any estimate of how many people realise how rigidly the law against physical punishment is practiced. My guess is that a lot are ignorant, but this guess is not even “educated”, I am afraid.

        But real arguments do exist against even light physical punishment. The most important I think is that many people, especially in a heated moment, do not realise their strength, and so they may actually do serious injury without intending to. The head, especially, contains important sensory organs which can be damaged and the neck can be dislocated.

        Therefore, I do not think the prohibition against physical punishment should be the centre of our criticism of the CPS. It is the CPS reaction: separating the children from their family, as if that has no ill effects, which is serious and in most cases unwarranted. In the Bodnariu family’s case I am sure a serious talk with the parents, telling them what the law is and what the consequences could be if they continued to punish the children physically, would have been (more than) enough.

        More important than moderate physical punishment as a reason for removing children is therefore the free use of just anything which the CPS people take into their heads to blame parents for. And that stems from what they have been taught, the whole psycho-babble philosophy and spurious science they believe in, the behavoristic and speculative trends in psychology. If they focus on a family, they will use anything as justification for taking the children. People must wake up to the fact that there are NO rules for what you may and may not do. Cf the section “Rules for parenting?” here:
        http://www.mhskanland.net/page10/page128/page128.html

        And although the current focus on Norway is a godsend, people must realise that this kind of “protection” is to varying degrees all over the Western world, and is being spread to other countries too. Only by alert counter-arguments about the realities of family life can we hope to stop it.
        A case from New Jersey, USA:
        “Family must come first”
        http://www.mhskanland.net/page10/page236/page236.html
        Spreading in India.
        “Save your child from Unicef”
        http://www.mhskanland.net/page45/page275/page275.html

        • Chris says:

          Thank you for your thoughtful response, Marianne.

          “The CPS precisely has no rules.”

          As you have stated,

          “But real arguments do exist against even light physical punishment.”

          I understand that this is true but I personally take the position that done correctly, corporal punishment can be effective and cause no harm whatsoever. At the same time, I must admit that it was not the discipline method that my wife and I chose.

          “Therefore, I do not think the prohibition against physical punishment should be the centre of our criticism of the CPS. It is the CPS reaction: separating the children from their family, as if that has no ill effects, which is serious and in most cases unwarranted.”

          It is these unwarranted cases that appear to be growing in western societies. I think your comment here is one of the two major reasons for this problem:

          “More important than moderate physical punishment as a reason for removing children is therefore the free use of just anything which the CPS people take into their heads to blame parents for. And that stems from what they have been taught, the whole psycho-babble philosophy and spurious science they believe in, the behavoristic and speculative trends in psychology. If they focus on a family, they will use anything as justification for taking the children. People must wake up to the fact that there are NO rules for what you may and may not do.”

          I believe the second major reason for this problem (not in order of importance) is the lack of spiritual wisdom in today’s world. In societies where true Christianity is waning (seems the entire world is heading that direction), there is going to be a lack of wisdom (Romans 1). The nation of Israel is evidence of this and my observation of the way the world has changed in my short lifetime leads me to believe that the faith that once made nations great (to a certain degree) is now under attack in so many ways. One change that I never expected to see is the redefinition of marriage. A long held sacred belief that marriage is between one man and one woman is something that I thought would never change. Yet, our “wisest” judges in America have decided that the unscriptural practice of a man “marrying” another man should be the law of the land. Frankly, it saddens my heart to see the issues that young people are dealing with today. In a way I am expressing the same question and statement found on this blog in many places: “How can God bless a nation that has turned its back on Him?”

          Thank you for the links and for sharing your thoughts, Marianne. They are always greatly appreciated.

  5. Since this case too, much like the Bodnariu case, includes accusations of violence against children, perhaps I should post the info I found on Norwegian text-tv on 27 January 2017 (my translation):

    “The news service AFP reports that a French constitutional court has voted down a law forbidding parents to beat/spank/hit their children. The decision is causing strong discontent among people opposed to child violence in the country. The practice of physical punishment har many supporters in France.”

    My reaction is that the way such laws against punishment are implemented in Norway and Sweden, France is probably well served by not adopting it.

    • Chris says:

      Interesting, Marianne. Thank you.

      I’m sure, like the USA, France has laws against child abuse. I know that people will always argue about what “child abuse” is. As common sense seems to have left a large percentage of the world’s population, I am surprised at the ruling in France.

      “The way such laws against punishment are implemented in Norway and Sweden, France is probably well served by not adopting it.”

      I so agree.

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