AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH

enough kindling to start a large fire

Sad.  That is my emotion after seeing this video.  It is sad on so many levels.  The laughter and comments of the clip’s commentators are as disturbing as the video.  McDonalds now has a policy that anything goes.  It is yet another cultural indicator that we are nearing a tribulation period that will occur before the return of our glorious Savior.  How it will all play out is something that no one can say with certainty.  No man knows the hour.

The recent event in Israel  is another indicator.  One death started World War I.  The kindling beneath the current, unique, flammable situation is in place. Only the right spark is needed.  Is the spark the flotilla event?  I don’t know.  If it isn’t, it certainly appears that the stage is set.  All that remains: a spark and the opening of the curtains.

If you are not a Bible student, it is time to become one.  If you haven’t trusted in Jesus, now is the time.  If you do, you will be in the minority.  A recent Barna poll seems accurate.  Data collected indicates that 16% still believe the entire Bible as the guide post.  Sixty-two percent pick and choose what they want.  They decide which part of the Bible is correct.  They decide which commandments are good and which ones aren’t.  They trust in themselves, not the Word of God.

The poll was taken within the “Christian community” in America.

French McDonalds Commercial

If you don’t think we are experiencing attitudes similar to ones in the days of Noah, watch this video:

Chris Reimers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRJm0f3i48I

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8 Responses to AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH

  1. I wonder why you opened this piece with a picture of a large bag of kindling. Are you wanting people to burn down McDonalds because you don’t like their add, in France? Eschatology can be really fascinating I was into it in the 80s and lots of stuff seemed to be falling into place. People would have scoffed we’re still here in 2010. I started having my doubts when i read the literature of the 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, 30s, turn of the century, throughout periods in the 19th century, the 16th century, the turn of the millenium, the fall of Rome, the destruction of the temple. Every generation since Jesus has thought they were the last generation. The only thing i know about the return of Jesus is he won’t be coming how the religious establishment thinks he is. More like a thief in the night.

    • Chris says:

      Dear Multi,

      I don’t understand how you could come to the conclusion, by my article, that I in any way endorsed arson. You make this confusing conclusion and then proceed to the real issue. Your procession to the heart of the article makes your opening assumption even more baffling.

      I’ll be the first to admit that no man understands all of the apocalyptic writings of scripture. Anyone who thinks they know it all lacks credibility.

      I also agree with you that others have seen signs in their times and made incorrect conclusions. I remember the early 80s, too. I remember the amount of discussion on the subject then.

      Did you miss these words in my short article?

      “It is yet another cultural indicator that we are nearing a tribulation period that will occur before the return of our glorious Savior. How it will all play out is something that no one can say with certainty. No man knows the hour.”

      Anytime one discusses this subject, it is important to keep these words in the mix and I did.

      Or how about these words; did you miss them too?

      “The kindling beneath the current, unique, flammable situation is in place. Only the right spark is needed.”

      I don’t know how you can read this short article and not understand the reason for the bag of kindling.

      The McDonalds ad is an indicator that we are in days like those that Noah experienced. The acceptance of ungodly lifestyles, in cultures that once were influenced against them by God’s Word, has become prevalent. My opinion is that we are very close to the beginning of the tribulation period and that the right spark onto the kindling will set it in motion. I think I make this clear in the piece.

      After re-reading the piece, I don’t think it was my best effort. However, I don’t see how anyone can come to the conclusion that you did.

      Interestingly, a few days after I wrote this article, I read others that made the same point. Since then, the religious Rabbis have made comments relating to apocalyptic events. Please see the article with pictures of Rabbis at the top that I put up yesterday (June 10).

      I will always admit that just because someone views things like I do doesn’t make me (us) correct.

      Your studies of the different eras, and the opinions held then, reflect egocentric thinking. There is no question that we are all guilty of this at times and we need to be mindful of the fact. At the same time, most agree that Israel had to be back in the land of the covenant before the seven year tribulation. Almost all agree on these two items: a return to the land, and a seven year tribulation. If a return to the covenant land was necessary, we know that Jesus couldn’t have come until recently.

      You write:

      “The only thing I know about the return of Jesus is he won’t be coming how the religious establishment thinks he is. More like a thief in the night.”

      I agree with both of these assessments. I would admonish you to continue studying, however, if these are the only two conclusions that you have made.

      God’s blessings,

      Chris Reimers

  2. thanks Chris, I apologize for misconstruing your bag of kindling, as you point out the symbolism is obvious and wordpress wants us all to be visual. I agree that narcissism has driven a lot of eschatology through the ages. There may even be some value in thinking that we are in the end of days. Makes us appreciate each day and live it like our last. But with the advent of our taking the means of the planet’s destruction out of the hands of the Almighty, eschatology can be very dangerous. In a nuclear world I am cautious of endorsing a belief system individuals can use to justify acts that push the world closer to Armageddon. Paul lays out pretty clearly the superiority of love to prophecy and i embrace the study of love and compassion and the sharing of those things to the least of us rather than pouring over a lot of really complex stuff to explain current events to reach a conclusion that Jesus said we could never have. It seems like splitting hairs to say no one can know the hour but lets spend a lot of time identifying the time frame. what are you gonna do anyways? In 20 years track me down and apologize for needlessly scaring people in a difficult time. If the tribulation hits before then you’ll be the first to hear from me that I was wrong. Keep on the search my brother for the Lord is indeed good.

    • Chris says:

      Dear Multi,

      As Ronald Reagan used to say, “There you go again.”

      You have pulled the dagger out of me and now you are wielding the battle-axe. You are sorry that you thought I might be promoting arson, but now you are concerned that I am playing God.

      Since playing God is the highest offense, you are nearing the highest slander.

      If I thought I was “taking the means of the planet’s destruction out of the hands of the Almighty,” I would destroy the computer on which I’m typing this.

      Have you seen a date anywhere on anything I have written? Have I placed the date September 1, 2011 somewhere? Am I copying those who are saying that then end is in 2012? If I have, please show me where I’ve done that and it will be erased.

      I use the words, “seems,” “may,” “perhaps,””soon,” etc. when writing of “last days” possibilities. You have not given me one of those huge words in the accusation that I am acting as God.

      I have forgiven you as you have asked on the arson charge and there is reconciliation. I have forgiven you for the second and much higher accusation. There is no excuse for this behavior, however.

      I have admitted that I am surprised that certain prophetic events haven’t happened sooner. I’m surprised, but glad. I’m surprised because things are getting pretty rough. I’m glad He tarries because it creates opportunity. I’m not questioning God’s timetable. His ways are infinitely higher than my ways. One thing that I probably haven’t made as clear as I should is that I don’t know the details, the items where folks “split hairs” as you say.

      If you choose to ignore a huge portion of the scriptures, that is your business. God has given you free will.
      I am only being obedient to the words of Jesus. “Be on the alert,” He said in Matthew 25:13. It is interesting that he tells us that no one knows the hour in the same verse. “No man knows the hour” are the exact words that I write in the post on which you have commented.”

      If Jesus didn’t want us to think about the second coming why did He go to the trouble to describe the “signs of the times” in Matthew 24? The theme continues in Matthew 25. If he didn’t want us to know there was a tribulation, why does he describe one in Matthew 24:21?

      “Therefore, be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming.” (Matt. 24:42) Did you notice this is not the same verse as the one above? Why would Jesus say it twice in the same “sermon” if it wasn’t important?

      I could go on and on with the Bible references.

      You say that “eschatology can be very dangerous.” I would agree with that, particularly when people use the word of God to get something they want or to push their agenda.

      Most things can be used for good or bad.

      Have you chosen to discount the entire book of Revelation because you don’t understand it completely?

      I choose to listen to it rather than you.

      “Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy.” This is what Revelation 1:3 states.

      I will continue to share my thoughts with people about this issue, because a large portion of scripture is devoted to it.

      You say:

      “In a nuclear world I am cautious of endorsing a belief system individuals can use to justify acts that push the world closer to Armageddon.”

      My response to this is, “Huh?”

      This statement makes me think that you don’t believe that the Bible is the Word of God. Most belief systems can be twisted to justify certain acts. Why are you picking on the things that the Bible teaches?

      You then, strangely, use the words of Paul. My response is “Huh?” again.

      Actually, you mention Paul’s name but you don’t quote any scripture. There is no scripture, of which I’m aware, that specifically shows “clearly the superiority of love to prophecy.” If there is, please respond and let me know which verse says that.

      Yes, “the greatest of these is love,” (1Cor. 12:31) and we must learn to be a servant. How better to love and serve people than to point them to the scriptures by way of the future?

      I am aware of this verse:

      Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world. James 1:27

      It is interesting that in one of the best known verses where Jesus talks about the poor (Matt. 25:36), he has just spoken about the “days of Noah,” (24:36) which is one of the signs for which we look.

      You say:

      “and I embrace the study of love and compassion and the sharing of those things to the least of us rather than pouring over a lot of really complex stuff.”

      First, there is no question that we are to help those who can’t help themselves.

      Second, there is nothing complex about the words of Jesus in Matthew 24 and 25. If you choose to skip the easy to understand references to Christ’s second coming you’ll be missing quite a treat and quite an amount. You have the free will to do that if you wish, however.

      Third, I will not question your love and compassion for people. My experience, however, is that folks who speak to others about helping the poor and widows do only that… talk. The majority of them do little.

      You say,

      “In 20 years track me down and apologize for needlessly scaring people in a difficult time.”

      First, emails about my blog go out to approximately 140 people. Most of those folks know me or have met me. Only two have asked me, since I started putting my writing in cyberspace, to remove them from my email list. There is no question that some of them do not think the way I do on this subject. Since over 98% have not asked me to remove them from the list, those who don’t agree with me on this topic tolerate it because occasionally they see something they like. There is no question that I’ve had more posts on this subject lately. If I didn’t think current events warranted them, I wouldn’t bother.

      Second, there is no effort to scare here. For the Christian, there is no fear of the future.

      Third, there is a power switch that comes with every computer. It is easily turned off, or a simple click can take to another item for consideration.

      Your final words show that you are much more tolerant than I. If I thought someone was playing God, it would be hard to call him “brother.”

      And I must add this. If I am “taking the means of the planet’s destruction out of the hands of the Almighty,” there are many others doing the same. The large percentages of folks who follow the words of Jesus and are “on alert” are Christians.

      Finally, if the tribulation starts within the next 50 or even 100 years, the kindling is dry in God’s timing. A day is like a thousand years and a thousand years are like a day.

      God’s blessings,

      Chris Reimers

  3. Hey Chris I’m sorry I meant no slander. I was no more tarring you with the brush of “taking the means of the planet’s destruction” any more on you than I am on myself. I was referring to man collectively for the development of nuclear weapons and the like not at you for studying the word and sharing your thoughts on it. I in no way meant you personally with what you were doing. I enjoyed reading your blog even if i don’t agree with it and I certainly respect your right to put it up. there’s a spot for comments, I make mine, that’s how it all works. Its a dialogue. Please delete my comments if they cause you distress, i meant no disrespect and certainly didn’t mean to imply you were playing god, though i think we all do collectively when we play with the power of life and death of it all, which should be reserved for god alone. “And if I have prophecy and know all mysteries and all knowledge,
    and if I have all faith so as to remove mountains,
    but have not love, I am nothing.” I work full time doing integrated mental health and substance abuse treatment, many homeless, many ex-offenders, and many victims of abuse. No one likes a hypocrite but i hear you on the widows and orphans talk. Your 100 years comment seem disingenuous. do you believe these recent events actually herald the end or don’t you? If you do and your right kudos. If you don’t and your just saying this stuff what’s up with that? If you believe it and promote it and it doesn’t turn out to be true than i think its fair to ask you to admit you were wrong. If you really believe recent events portend the end of the world in the next 100 years please make that your headline. Let me end with a story. During gym class in the eighth grade there was a commotion outside and i went out and the sky was dark, like it was night, though it was afternoon. I was frightened and my first thought was the clouds were going to open to return of jesus. it was just a storm. i had a sunday school teacher who did the 80s version of what you’re doing. whats more frightening now is the intersection between christian eschatologists and right wing israeli movement who could push some self fulfilling prophecy by a terrorist act on the temple mount. and no chris i am not accusing you of being a terrorist or supporting terrorism. i’m sure you’re a fine fellow.

    • Chris says:

      Dear John,

      You quote a scripture from the Bible but do you believe in the Bible as God’s truth?

      You write:

      “Please delete my comments if they cause you distress, i meant no disrespect and certainly didn’t mean to imply you were playing god, though i think we all do collectively when we play with the power of life and death of it all, which should be reserved for god alone. ‘And if I have prophecy and know all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.’”

      The tone of your posts has become friendlier, but you seem not to be a Christian. The posts cause me no distress. They are typical of discussions that take place in every corner today. I am used to it.

      It should be obvious to you by now that the only power over life and death that I exercise is what I know from the Bible. If I influence anyone in any way, my intention is to build them up in the Lord. Jesus said, “I have come that they have life…abundantly.”

      If anyone constructs what I write in any other way, they are mistaken. The only thing I wish to do is to point people to God’s word, not mine.

      You have quoted a good scripture. Do you believe in the rest of the book? Do you believe that Jesus is your Savior? Do you believe that He is the only one who can save your soul?

      You say,

      “Your 100 years comment seem disingenuous. do you believe these recent events actually herald the end or don’t you? If you do and your right kudos. If you don’t and your just saying this stuff what’s up with that? If you believe it and promote it and it doesn’t turn out to be true than i think its fair to ask you to admit you were wrong. If you really believe recent events portend the end of the world in the next 100 years please make that your headline.”

      I think you have a good question here. The article you read is about a McDonalds ad that is running in France. I think the ad is an indicator that we are in the last days. Thus, the title of the article, “AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH.” It took Noah many years to build the Ark. The people were disobedient during the building of the great ship. Noah didn’t know when it was going to rain, he just did his job.

      I know it’s going to rain. I’m just doing my job. I would never compare myself to that great man of God, but there is one similarity. I don’t know when it is going to “rain” and I don’t know where I will land. The Bible says, however, to “Trust the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding. In all of you ways acknowledge Him and He will make straight your paths.”

      After your comment, I will probably go back and insert something about Noah in my post. The title has his name, and information about him in the article is lacking.

      My comment wasn’t meant to be disingenuous. I probably should include the same information (the years that I mentioned to you) in the post also.

      My comment to you was the truth as I understand it. I cannot put a time on His return. One hundred years are very short in God’s eyes. Our life span is vaporous (Ecclesiastes): very short.

      Over the last decade, with the 9/11 event and all that came with it, I still didn’t think Jesus was coming in my lifetime….until very recently. The occultic influences that are becoming increasingly obvious and the apostasy in the churches have changed my mind.

      This opinion, of course, is based on a normal life span. That would be another 20 years or so for me. I think I am seven or so years older than you. Didn’t your blog say that you were born in 1965?

      I’ll admit that this opinion is not set in concrete. I still go back and forth on the matter. My opinion is firming, however.

      The events that are taking place today in such rapid succession make me believe we are living in the days that Jesus talked about in Matthew 24. Godlessness and disobedience are rampant. “As it was in the days of Noah,” Jesus said. Thus, the headline.

      There is no question that I may be wrong about it happening during my lifetime.

      I am of the opinion that things are going to worsen. That sounds very negative, but I must let you know that I look on life positively. I just can’t hide my head in the sand on this matter, however. The world is morally and spiritually bankrupt. The McDonalds ad is just another indicator of this truth.

      I hope I am wrong. I hope when I die that I am able to say that a repentance has taken place. I hope when I die, my children will live in a safe world. I will be so happy to admit that I was wrong if this turns out to be the case.

      You say,

      “During gym class in the eighth grade there was a commotion outside and i went out and the sky was dark, like it was night, though it was afternoon. I was frightened and my first thought was the clouds were going to open to return of jesus. it was just a storm. i had a sunday school teacher who did the 80s version of what you’re doing. whats more frightening now is the intersection between christian eschatologists and right wing israeli movement who could push some self fulfilling prophecy by a terrorist act on the temple mount. and no chris i am not accusing you of being a terrorist or supporting terrorism. i’m sure you’re a fine fellow.”

      I understand your concern here. I have spent a great deal of time with eighth graders. I know what not to say to them.

      No eighth grader, that I’m aware of, reads this blog. There is one high school student and one college student on the email list.

      If I was teaching an 8th grade Sunday School lesson today, I would focus on the basics. Few of today’s children know the basics. This is another indicator of the shape in which we find our nation and our world. When children have asked me questions about the second coming of Jesus, I have answered them. The intent has always to encourage, not to frighten. I can be more frank about my opinions with adults. My answer to kids has been “No man knows the hour but we must be ready.” If I were asked today, I would read Matthew 24 and 25 with them.

      As to your concern about terrorism, I think it is misguided. God’s timetable is set. I have no idea exactly how or when it will all play out, but I do believe that God knows. He knows when Jesus will return and He knows the details. The building of the third temple will happen in God’s timing.

      As to me being a fine fellow, I don’t know about that. I am glad that you understand now, however, that I would never advocate arson and that I would certainly never think that I am God or desire to be a god. For heaven’s sake, that’s the trick that Satan used on Adam and Eve in the garden and look how things turned out.

      God’s blessings,

      Chris Reimers

  4. Thanks for the thoughtful reply Chris I was suspecting we were off on the wrong foot and its rare to be able to back off from that and clarify where we are at. I enjoy dialoguing with people of all belief systems and trying to identify where we have common ground and where we have room for civil discussion and occasionally I kick around some point of contention. I think you’ve mistaken me for my brother john who was born in 65. i’m mike from 68. i believe in the possibility we are in the end times and i believe we can impact events. if noah’s peers weren’t so wicked there wouldn’t have been a flood. i pray the lord hold’s his hand so everyone can get in. i pray for peace in jerusalem (and elsewhere). i have a personal relationship with a loving god who made the universe. i honor the truth as best i see it and am a lifelong learner. i don’t like labels and don’t feel bound by them. good luck with the blog, its been nice chatting.

    • Chris says:

      Mike,

      I would have given you the last word except that I went back again and read my article. I see no reason to change it. I already have another post planned concerning the “days of Noah.” You may want to read that one also.
      I did review another post, however, and made a few changes where I thought I was being too presumptuous.

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